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Adam
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amnesiac v2.0 wrote:
It's part of the new and improved hotgem. There are big plans for the webiste, so there can't be any fun. You hear that, NO FUN! the Fun police have arrived!


There are big plans for this website actually, I want to be able to come in here, read it and not then spend the next 20 minutes discussing how to manage the foul behaviour. I've seen better social interaction in kindergartens, quite honestly I think a lot of the users here should be ashamed of themselves.

I really can't understand why the a select group of the users of this site feel the need to continually drag it down into the gutter. Why can't we happily talk about the cars we love without it reverting back to some infantile penis measuring contest and endless 'owned' remarks. Take Gene for instance, here is a user that loves geminis and does great work. If I talk to him in person I get a mature, intelligent adult interested in techniques, costs, performance but when I leave him unsupervised in here, I get a childish kid who starts unresolvable shitfights because of some mindless vendetta that he attempts to justify to anyone who will listen.

Amnesiac, you're unbanned, I hope you understand why I had to ban you and whilst I know you were only joking, you should be careful which mods you criticise, I only unbanned you because one of them came in to bat for you.

Two or three users, who should know damn hell who they are., you're about --> <-- that far away from being banned for the same childish infantile reasons that have seen so many others sit out for a week. I don't want to ban you, god only knows that I wish this place would just run itself, but you keep ignoring the requests and hints to clean up your act.

I had a bit of a laugh myself the other week, in regards to holden gemini online, someone said "They didn't want another hotgemini.com" with regards to the lousy attitude of our members, why I had to laugh was the fact that virtual all of the people that drag hg.com down to the gutter are active members of holden gemini online. I wish HGO the best of luck, if they work out a way to get the wankers to behave, I'll be the first to copy them.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Adam
I wish HGO the best of luck, if they work out a way to get the wankers to behave, I'll be the first to copy them.[/quote]

well if they didnt have mods cryingall the time peopl woludnt behave like wankers
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill pay that - adams comments that is not tunneys
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you now that Holden gem onlines admin will be deleting all pains in the asses on the spot, I think that is a power the mods get there too.

But as far as adding sections to the forum to suit a certain group, HGO is certainly more proactive in that area. That can keep alot of pains in the asses in there 'play pen'. Laughing jokes

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemini=tunney:

Just to be clear on this, joe and I used to moderate the old forum on our own. Joe was too busy so most of the time it fell to me alone, in the end I got sick of it and often the site was completely unmoderated, the place went to the dogs like you wouldn't believe. What I'm alluding to is that actually no, the troublemakers cause the trouble, the moderators just have to sit there and cop it in the face all day long. You are speaking bullshit.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam does have a good point and congradulations adam on cracking the 1000 posts
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheer lack of respect for the site you yack in

on a lighter note if your testosterone levels are high try this:


http://groups.msn.com/PISSEDCHATTERS/messages.msnw Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baycie bayce wrote:


Welcome to earth fusion? What earth do you live on? I think you are getting a bit carried away in this Internet world of yours, I find it so hilarious how all you boys are so tough on here with all your big nasty words and then in real life you are all little wuss bags.

Just because Poida actually bothers to try and make a difference around here you all have a cry, boo hoo i can't keep posting relentless bull crap all the time because people aren't going to stand up for it anymore, If any other mod was doing the same things as Poida you would not give two hoots about it. Why say all these nasty things you are posting? What good does it do and don't say it is all for fun, because it's not. Is it so hard to keep your nasty comments private? You are acting like nards and when you get banned again, i for one will be laughing!




god damm


i love hot gem or what it used to be

but latly it seems all of you so respectable people take there instant asshole pill befoe they log on cant any of see there should be a certain amount of leaniancy in posting the one thing i have noticed is all you do isn whinge and make usless posts why not ban you


mr gemi i thought you know everthing thing i say is tounge in cheek the is a line between an attack and a fuck around you dont seem to be able to see this line and burr up at everything said


adam i understand what your saying if this was my site i wouldnt stand for so much post whoring shit i realised i was going to far i have slowed up

while still dont agree with the level of restriction enforced buy mods some of the mods are awesome people most know how to take a joke fair enough gem kid was a litle whore a gene wanna be but i like gene he is bitter and feels unfairly treated by the hones matter


and baycie you say i am childish look at your post how many badly worded 25year old + punch lines have you attempted to to lay on me
if i wanted to hear from an asshole i would fart ok



so adam maybe a long talk to gene and gemkid about there way's might help resolve instead of stirr

i think you would agree i have changed my way's a fair amount me and nuzza are both disshartened with the direction of hotgem and the sourness of its long time members i would like nothing more than to come on here and talk about gemi's
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adam you have done a good job i'll amited it i give sum mods shit and so do other people i think it's just 1 it might help to do sumthing about it Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fusiongem and Gemini=tunney: Whilst I appreciate the efforts many members are putting in towards reforming their behaviour, I feel that it is still underestimated just how much of a change we (the moderation team) and I are looking for. Essentially I don't see much of a need for anyone to make it personal at all, if you disagree with someone (whether its about the maximum overbore of a G161) or over the spec of a V8supercar engine, discuss the post, don't attack the poster.

Please don't take it personally when I say that you two still aren't meeting my expectations, thats just the honest truth.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam wrote:

Please don't take it personally when I say that you two still aren't meeting my expectations, thats just the honest truth.



well ponida anit meeting many of hotgemy users experctaions as well but he's not a clown about it whatabout if fusion gem stop's having fun and then gets mod im sure people like nuzza (who is dead) gemmy kid 16 amnesiac gene woludnt make so many shit fights if they colud trust a mod sum1 like nuzza or fusion
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amnisiac were have u been???????
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, im only a new member (4-5 months) but iv been reading the site for over 2 years and was also a member when it was the old version. so this is my opinion on the matter

* hot gemini was left un "moderated" for way to long and this is what it turned into, and now you decide to change it.. simple.. old habbits take die hard.. u cant just jump in acting like special forces team and whipe out everythign and expect it all to happen striaght away

* HGO is more "in order" because they listen to there members, and change the site to accomodate ideas and make it grow and become better. where as iv noticed here, you make a suggestion, its like talking to a tree. nothing happens.

*HGO's moderators dont act like power hungry tools. they get in and help and dont let the "power" go to there head.. seriously.. i think 1/2 the mods here are more childish then 1/2 the members

* Poida has compleatly changed from what he use to be.. hes acting as if he is fighting for world peace or something.. maybe instead of sitting on the computer all day get out and have a reality check??? no offence at all but your trying to lay the new laws down to hard and to fast, and taking it WAY over board...

*look at Fredrick and ben weight... there the only 2 mods that have 1/2 a clue.. there not on here being power hungry loony's, runing around posting demands here and there. they do what a mod is ment to do and they dont act like there everything and more for hot gemini. also i must admit onlya4 and hones are being more sensable about it now then what they use to be..

*notic how nearly everymember is saying the same thing along the lines of

the new "rules are being taken way out of hand and mods are over reacting,, etc.....

if most of the members are saying this, it must mean something.
like i said u cant expect it all to change straight up as this is how the site have grown to be come over the years.. its gonna take time to bring it back in to line (if thats what u call it)

thats my rant.. not that it will mean shit..
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the above post, i am only new on the scale of things (1 year) but i have noticed a bit of a turn of late.
Whilst i agree there are some extremely immature and un-necessary posts put up here there is also some extreme over-moderation.

No-one is at fault out of the Moderators and i dont believe they are trying to be an ar$e's for no reason. From what i can see its an attempt to crack down on the crap and prove the point that it will not be tolerated. Certain users are thinking this is some sort of personal vendetta against them and are rioting as a result. What has happened is a out and out divide between Moderators and Users because everyone is sticking to their guns and not backing down, therefore tensions are escalating out of control.

I think a all over truce needs to be set up, an agreement set and for everyone involved to forget what happened last week, last year or whenever and to begin again.
It will have to involve a compromise from both sides, maybe users should modify their behavior and stop posting (obviously) offensive material and Moderators to allow a little tounge in cheek posting (where it is seen as not hurting anyone and no one is upset)
It sounds really simple i know and probably easier said than done, but what else can be done?

The key is for everyone to stop dragging up past issues and move on afresh and work from there with everyone co-operating as a group.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol this reminds me of school..

whenever the teacher gave us seating arrangements to keep the trouble makers away from others everyone would bitch but whenever there was a teacher who didnt give a shit where we sat thered be no real issues

its like a rebellion
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